Sometimes Enlightenment Can Be a Real Kick in the A**

Very Clean Enlightenment - This is More Like It

DIEGO:
05:33
hey ciaran
my name is diego, and i´ve been reading your work lately

CIARAN:
05:33
word
how you finding it

DIEGO:
05:34
quite frankly i´m frustrated and angry

CIARAN:
05:34
cripes

DIEGO:
05:34
bc i don't seem to get it

CIARAN:
05:34
yeah
it can be a bugger
so where are you at right now
re the whole
no you thing

DIEGO:
05:35
there is no you, looking at it from that lens

CIARAN:
05:35
ok

DIEGO:
05:35
but i get pissed, bc i only am at the point of mentally understanding it, not seeing it

CIARAN:
05:35
ok
still
that's not a bad point, eh?
could be worse
might not have any idea about it
could be on fire
or in a bag
all of which would be worse
ok dude
look
you have to have a level of understanding
i mean, shit
you might just stumble across it
but that's a million to one
everyone i've ever popped
had to get some level
of clear idea
of what it was they were looking for
that's not just fine
it's important
it really is
and yes
while yes
of course you do need to see it
because that's where the juice is
don't be so down on yourself

DIEGO:
05:37
so it's best to define why i want this to happen?

CIARAN:
05:38
no
that would be silly
ignore that sort of thing
pointless
it's best to get try and get the issue
clear in your head
to the extent that you can
when you are not enlightened
which is to say
you have to allow
for a certain level of haze
but
you still gotta get some sense
of what you're looking for

DIEGO:
05:40
and how do i go about it? other trying to understand or thinking about it

CIARAN:
05:40
well look
the difference with this thing
as opposed to another idea
is that this is actually true
and that changes the playing field a little
in your favour, actually
this no you thing
isn't just true
it's totally true
from every conceivable angle
in every possible way
it could ever be thought of
one of the major problems people have
is that they're trying to see it in this one thing
or maybe from two or three angles
or whatever
and they get stuck in some paradox or other
and they start spinning out
thing is
it's true from every angle
100%
you can look at it from your ownership of a sandwich if you want
whatever
and actually make it
in 10 seconds
it is that total
so point one
is don't worry too much about angle of approach
because all angles hit it
after a single honest step
just pick whatever you feel most comfortable with
the second thing
is what you're actually trying to do
with this angle
or whatever

DIEGO:
05:44
what do you mean by that?

CIARAN:
05:44
well look
i say this over and over
it's like we're so stuck in thinking
that ideas are things
well, not things
that the arena of ideas
is the main arena of interaction
in which we operate
i know i'm getting a little out there
try to stick with it
that we don't really credit reality itself
with actually being there
we think we need to believe this or that
or whatever
otherwise it will go away
people think enlightenment
is like a special kind of confidence
you know?
that if you hold the peace
and believe there's no you
then you'll get all the hot new age babes
or whatever
but it's not like that

DIEGO:
05:46
hahaha im
guilty of that

CIARAN:
05:46
more than anything
cheeky scamp
more than anything
it's like seeing one of those magic eye patterns
like in the film mallrats
"it's a sailboat not a schooner"
if you've ever seen it
the truth is that there is a boat there
you don't see it
because it's unusual for you to look in that way
it's not impossible
or even particularly hard
your eyes focus in and out all the time
but you've just got to jiggle the thing a little
and then pop
sailboat
or schooner or whatever
look
there actually is no you
in real life
it's not a game
or some special thing
that you believe
which is magic
or makes you awesome
by it's internal awesomeness
it's just a single thing
that is actually the truth
really
check it out man
it's trippy as fuck
really
there really is no you
there's just the life
that 'you' think that 'you' are living
but there's no you
there's just thinking
and living
is that not
something of a headfuck?

DIEGO:
05:50
yes it certainly is

CIARAN:
05:50
is it true?

DIEGO:
05:51
honestly, i get glimpse that it isi

CIARAN:
05:51
well
check them
look deeper
find out
find the real truth of this
is this just ciaran talking crap
or is it real?
you get a glimpse of it
glimpse harder
you know?
is it true?
ask yourself that
right now
is it true?

DIEGO:
05:53
it's weird, it clicks in my thoughts

CIARAN:
05:53
is it true?

DIEGO:
05:55
don't know right now

CIARAN:
05:55
find out right now
there is no you
behind your life causing it
or in front of your life
being effected by it
there's just your life
and it's not yours
it's just life
and you
are just the imagination
of yourself
headfuck yes
true?
look
see
look at it
look how totally fucking true it is
it is mental
it is everywhere
look
it's so obvious
it's not magic
it's just the truth
look
look right now
look
it's real dude
look at the fucker
there's no you
in any sense
there's just life
it's crazy, yes
but it's 100% real
right now
look
there's no you

DIEGO:
05:59
have got a headache right now, from looking

CIARAN:
05:59
no you haven't
there's just a headache
it's not your headache
there is no you

DIEGO:
06:01
so life just is?

CIARAN:
06:02
you tell me

DIEGO:
06:02
i'm frustrated and scared by this

CIARAN:
06:02
no you aren't
there's just frustration
and fear
they're not your frustration
and it's not your fear
there is no yo
you

DIEGO:
06:03
that feels so true

CIARAN:
06:03
is it?

DIEGO:
06:04
it is, but there's no change

CIARAN:
06:04
no change in what?
in 'you'?
you dumb bastard?
i will slap you

DIEGO:
06:04
yes, in thinking in terms of me

CIARAN:
06:04
no shit
so
you're not thinking
in terms
of you
there's just thinking in terms of 'you'
and the 'you' involved in that
is a fucking fiction
that does not refer to anything
fucking look you dumb bastard
it's right there
come on
seriously
it's so simple
it's not some mental complex equation
there just isn't a you
at ALL
there's just life
look
and NO
it will not MAGICALLY change things
but
if you see
that it is actually true
yes
it's pretty fucking mental
so look
and see
if it's fucking true or not
now
and don't just stare off into space
repeating it like a mantra
actually look
for the actual answer
to the question
is there really no me?
actually answer it
in real life
for yourself
now

DIEGO:
06:08
there's only the thought of me

CIARAN:
06:08
YES
go on

DIEGO:
06:08
there is no me, it's not anywhere

CIARAN:
06:08
GOOD
YES
go on

DIEGO:
06:08
it's not physical, it's not of substance

CIARAN:
06:08
true

DIEGO:
06:09
it's not fully definable

CIARAN:
06:09
no
it's not in ANY way definable
because it does exist
at ALL
try again
doesn't exist rather
you know what i meant
ahem
there is no you
look
it's incredible isn't it
the totality and the simplicity
of the delusion
it's just huge
but at the same time tiny

DIEGO:
06:10
it is simple

CIARAN:
06:10
yeah
just so simple
it's right there all the time
but we just never look
it's crazy right?
this 'delusion of self'
thing
yeah?

DIEGO:
06:11
its unnecessary

CIARAN:
06:11
of course
is there a you
in any sense?

DIEGO:
06:12
no, it's just a belief, fake

CIARAN:
06:12
uh huh
look at how deep it is
inside everything
it's like the foundation stone
of all human bullshit
there's just life right
this one moving flow
of consciousness and life
we call the present
in it there are thoughts
actions
will
belief
truth
lies
but no you
never a you
incredible
that we would be so deluded
about something so intimate to us

DIEGO:
06:13
everything just is

CIARAN:
06:13
yup
tell you what
keep exploring it
post something up whenever you see something cool
i'm off for a smoke
but will be back
in just a little while
but keep exploring how real it is
as it is
pretty mental to look at
and quite cool

DIEGO:
06:14
thanks man

CIARAN:
06:15
just keep looking
and keep on the conversation
just see if you can't see some more stuff
it is quite cool to look at the truth

DIEGO:
06:16
there's no you to keep protecting
there's no self to keep nurturing
there's no self love
there's no self help
the only thing that is, is freedom

CIARAN:
06:19
freedom indeed my newly enlightened chum
stick with it
you're really getting somewhere now
go further into it
just explore the truth of it
you don't need to persuade yourself of anything
just keep checking it the fuck out
it is quite cool
as i'm sure you'll agree

DIEGO:
06:21
there's a feeling of lightness
and some joy
like a big release

CIARAN:
06:21
yup
that's the one
stay with it
keep looking into the truth of it

DIEGO:
06:23
this moment is very full
full of life

CIARAN:
06:23
isn't it just?

DIEGO:
06:23
there's no struggle

CIARAN:
06:24
nope

DIEGO:
06:24
but more of a childlike curiosity

CIARAN:
06:24
yeah
dude
i think we're finished here
that was rapid
even by the standards
of people who are very quick
you did good here
you're american right?

DIEGO:
06:25
nope, from el salvador

CIARAN:
06:26
but you go to uni in penn state?
how long have you been in america?

DIEGO:
06:26
yeah i went to school there, i was in america for 4 yearsi
then came back to el salvador after graduating

CIARAN:
06:26
ok
cool
not sure what it is
about hispanic people
you guys are very good at this
seriously
hispanic and irish
for whatever reason
no idea why
maybe just the fact
that both groups
are a little insane
i have irish blood
and am something of a nutcase
probably helps
anyway
now you've popped
here's the deal
all the thoughts and stuff
and the feelings
they don't go away
you can if you do nothing now
stagnate at a very shallow level
of enlightenment
so don't
get yourself
some eckhart tolle
there's a great audio thing he does
called 'through the open door'
it's really good
what you want to do now
is to deepen your vision
of the truth
not for a laugh
or because it is magic
but because there is a world
at the mercy of a lie
that's very simple
as you now understand
and cracking a person out of that lie
is not magic
nor is it really
that hard
it's a little tricky
takes a clear eye
a firm hand
and a kind heart
but it absolutely can be reproduced
i have no interest
in recreational buddhas
there is a kind of belief
in my country
Britain
that if a person has the ability to help others
they also have the duty to do so
you now have the ability
to help your people
in a way so deep
and so permanent
that it will change the whole dynamic
of the world
and turn the people of el salvador
into a beacon of truth
that can literally guide the world
out of the dark age
it is currently in
so deepen your state
and sharpen your scalpel
the world has need of you
diego
the question is
what's more appealing to you
the serenity of a mountaintop
or the glory of a free world?
what's it gonna be?

DIEGO:
06:34
definitely help others

CIARAN:
06:34
good man
ok cool
well
you did real good tonight
that was a pleasure

DIEGO:
06:35
have you tried this with relatives?
thanks

CIARAN:
06:35
with some limited success
i used to be pretty harsh with it
you can be clean
and firm
firmness is important
but so is just sort of letting the purity of the truth
do all the heavy lifting for you
anyway
run along now
download some tolle
sign up on the forum
and PM me so I can add you to the list
of enlightened people
and also

DIEGO:
06:36
ok will do

CIARAN:
06:36
start thinking about ways
to get this shit out
ok?

DIEGO:
06:37
ok, thanks
had to say that again

CIARAN:
06:38
haha
no problem hero
this is going on the blog btw

DIEGO:
06:38
going to bed now, catch you later man

CIARAN:
06:38
very nice enlightenment
sure man

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